UTVinc Polaris RZR Turbo Race Report

Johnny

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Vegas To Reno 2015 Polaris RZR Turbo ITP Tire Race Report

Johnny Angal 1921 UTVinc.com

As I sit here less than 2 days after a none stop storm tryin to turn a 2016 Polaris RZR Turbo in to a off road race car my neck is sore, my stomach, back, arms, shoulders, teeth, jaw, hands well you get the Idea but let me tell you not just me but after the race when you see all your fellow racers slowly climbing out of their race cars after 10 12 15 hours of getting tossed around in the race car, sweeting, you have a death grip on the steering wheel as the car gets bashed, you bottom out in large washes and the g-forces pound your spine and every joint and muscle in your body and after the first 100 miles you asking your self what the hell was I thinking ? what am I doing here ?

Well this race was a pretty special race for me and my Team after winning the Baja 1000 last year Polaris Industries sponsored my team, ya that’s what I was thinking why the hell would you put your faith, your Company name and everything you built behind Me a 50 year old guy that has never really raced anything ? well they did and when they released the 2016 Polaris RZR XP Turbo they Invited me to the release in Las Vegas and asked me If I wanted one to race ? how freaking special is that ? now you guys have to understand im 99.99999% sure they didn’t think I was stupid enough to Risk a season of racing and Being the Current 1900 Pro UTV Class points leader on a new untested as far as Racing is concerned machine as we all know that taking anything and Driving it as fast and as hard as you can none stop 545 Miles thru the most brutal terrain in Nevada will break anything and everything it can… Can you say Death Valley, Area 51, miles of burning hot, desolate Valleys, sand washes and barren waste land that is so remote they tested the first atomic bombs in the area because they knew nobody was stupid enough to ever journey into the area.

Well im sure they didn’t want nor think that somebody could build a competitive desert race car out of one of their brand new just released Turbo RZRs in 12 days and even if they could if a person was stupid enough to do that and they broke down 50 miles in the race it wouldn’t exactly be good for new car sales and I had that in the back of my mind when I told my Team at the shop we had less then two weeks to turn a stock RZR into a race car and throw caution into the wind again and race it with no spare parts 545 miles from Vegas to Reno

As we started the build and posting up a few pictures of our progress I was expecting a call from somebody at Polaris asking me what the hell I was doing and why would I risk everything on a new untested machine ? but that call never came and all I could think about was the new turbo machine was faster and I wanted to go faster. I also knew it was the next step of progress of all that they had learned thru the years and not JUST a faster more powerful machine but a complete upgrade of all the systems in the RZR that made it better, Better transmission, better brakes, clutchs, engine, the whole package

The Build

So anyhow I asked my two main fabrication guys Eric “Boner” Ringler and Craig Hammar if they could get it done ? really I told them here its is and I want it done in 10 Days and after getting the machine at 4:30 Pm they had it tore down into piles of parts scattered about our shop floor the first night, the next day I started making Phone calls to all the people that support our Team, Like Dan Fisher from lonestar racing asking him if he could build me custom axles in a week and if he had a spare racing fuel tank laying around and he said yes yes and yes, my guy from Fox Racing Shox Yes Yes and Yes, my guy from Rigid Industries LED Lighting Yes Yes and Yes, Method Wheels, ITP Tires, Wolf Designs, Crow Racing Harnesses, Impact Racing, PCI Race Radios, UPR racing supplies, SDHQ, everybody I called was there for us Making it happen it was The Team making it happen not me but the amazing people we work with making our problem there problems and getting it done for us. Thank You all so Much

Well we got it done and started loading our two chase trucks because we had to pull out the next morning for the 6 hour drive to Las Vegas for Tech inspection and contingency and the to the 5PM Drivers Meeting and yet even more another 2 hour drive to the starting line and the hotel we spent the night at the Death Valley Inn

The next morning is Race Day and Im thinking we will be off the starting line around 11:30 am but they want us to line up at 8:30 am lol so we can sit in the sun and cook in our full Fire race suits and knowing better I pull over to the staging area around 10 am and yep you guessed it sit in the sun cooking and sweeting till we leave the starting line right around 11:30

Yes we are off and running and the new car hauls ass we pass 2 or 3 cars in the first 10 miles and then our first problem is realized I had the guys set up the ride height a little lower for this race as last year it wasn’t to ruff but this year 250 other race cars and trucks started ahead of us and have worn huge deep rutts in the race course so our car is dragging it belly and bottoming out all over the place I tell Boner he needs to call the chase truck in Pit 1 and tell them they need to jack up the car and adjust the shocks so the car rides higher and he does, well about the time he gets done with that the car engine has overheated and we have to pull over to let it cool down, you see when we built the race car we had to modify the cooling lines and added a front bumper and lights to the front of the car in front of the radiator and turbo intercooler thus slowing down air flow to and thru the radiators so I also tell him to call to the pits and tell them to pull off the front lightbar hoping that would help it was 110 degrees out in the shade and we had to keep pulling over to let the car cool down and as we set on the side of the race course watching all the other racers drive by us we knew the mistakes we had made pretty quick

We made it to the first pit loosing at least 30 minutes and the changes helped a lot we where off and hauling ass again and when I could keep the car cool we would fly past the competition but in the 2 to 3 foot deep silt beds and deep sand and gravel the temps would still climb on the car and we had to pull over and let them pass us back and at this point I figured we just had to deal with it as we knew we had screwed up and didn’t have the tools or parts to fix it at this race

So we raced on having to take it easy on the gas pedal but even with that we slowly started gaining ground we also had a couple of problems with our rear aftermarket axles that slowed us down when we hit a large washed out section of road doing about 70 mph and when we pulling into the pits we had a problem removing the CV cup from the transmission to install a spare

Our chase pit crew was on the spot getting everything fixed as fast as they could while fueling our car with gas, fixing problem, feeding us and giving us drinks at the pits

We had one flat tire and Boner jumped out making quick work of it changing it out and I had told Boner I was going to race all 545 of the race myself with him as my navigator but if I did get wore out I was going to get out and have him get in the drivers seat with Craig as his navigator because Craig was the Navigator during the second half of the race last year and Im sure Boner was excited about it because in the last year and a half I had never let him drive he had always been my navigator well as his luck would have it around 10 PM race mile 400ish I told him I was ready to get out I had had enough and even my teeth hurt and he said his neck was sore I told him I would call on the radio and have Drew and Craig finish the race when all of a sudden he piped up with “oh my neck don’t hurt that bad” as we chuckled I knew after building me the best race rzrs over the last year he wanted nothing more then to get in the drives seat and show us how he could shine and I told him take it easy as there is nothing more important the getting this car across the finish line

As we rolled into the pit at race mile 410 I climbed out of the car cutting my finger and now bleeding all over the place Boner and Craig took off into the darkness it had cooled off a lot and we were able to drive harder and faster the next race update I got was we were in third place and I was so excited Boner and Craig had to pull over a few more times to cool down but it seemed as they where staying in third place and I thought to myself how fucking cool is that building a race car in 12 days and we going to podium the race little did I know their where two cars infront of us that trackers didn’t work so we where really in 5th place as I walk up to the finish line in the dark I thought it was our car sitting their but as I got closer I realized it was Jagged X while it took a few minutes for that shit to sink in our car crossed the finish line in 5th place

Im still super happy with the 5th place finish and my awesome Team that make it all possible and as it turned out I think we held our lead in the points race for the end of the season

In all reality How cool is even finishing a 545 Brutal off road race that rattles, shakes, pounds, and beets to death over half of the machines that start the race !!!!!!!!!


Congrats to all the racers and teams that took on the Vegas To Reno!

Thank You Polaris RZR, UTV INC, Lone Star Racing, Method Wheels, ITP Tires, Wolf Designs, Rigid Lights, UTV Underground, Mad Media and everybody else that plays the tiniest part in our race program. Without you we wouldn’t be racing!

And a Special shout out for the help from Marc Burnett and Branden Sims
 
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goMRgo

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Incredible build time by your guys! I knew you'd finish it.

Murray Racing and our pit crew were always looking over our shoulders wondering when we might see you and the team being we started 20th and you further back. It was nice to chat at the finish line and receive your congrats on our 2nd place. See you next month at the Imperial Valley 250.

BTW: Where did you get that roof scoop?
 

badassmav

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Moneybags, if you don't have any grandchildren, you need to go and buy you some! You'll need someone to pass onto, all of these unique, but mostly successful racing stories and memories that you are rapidly amassing. There is always an element of luck in racing, but luck doesn't win championships. Integrity, diligence, unity and adaptability are all crucial qualities a team needs in order to secure a championship. In just a couple of short years, your team has somehow found a way to acquire all of said qualities.

I thought, and still do think that the overnight turbo car was a huge risk, bordering on foolish. But, you pulled it off big time, and in doing so, made a bold statement to your competitors that they will have to claw the championship trophy from your lactic acid deprived fingertips! Congratulations on persevering. I'm glad that I am no longer the one having to prepare a car to compete against yours.

Now that I've all but given you a knobber, I will say to you, and all teams running the XP 1000, turbo, or N/A, that an area of concern should be the rear cv joint cup where the splines engage inside of the transmission. Marc had a similar problem like you did during this race, with the inner cv joint cup somehow wedging itself inside of the transmission splines. I was told that Airdam Adam had an atv with a winch, secured it to a fixed object, chase truck I think, and the winch still couldn't pull the cup free from the transmission. Something somewhere broke instead. Either the winch mount or the tiedown strap that secured the ATV to the chase truck. They eventually had to use a piece of steel tubing, and repeatedly beat the shit out of the cup from the opposite side, through the splines of the transmission. Even then, it took awhile to break the cup free from the transmission. Possibly, there is a tolerance issue between the retaining clip at the inner grove of the cv cup, and the interface it shares with the splines inside of the transmission. Here's where sharing information is a good thing. One car, possibly a fluke. But occurring in two cars, well, that's a pretty big ko-wink-e-dink, don't you think?

When I was prepping Marc's cars, if the axle/cv joint assembly wouldn't "snap" into place after a couple of firm hits with a deadblow hammer, I would pull the axle assembly back out of the car, then slide a piece of .035" diameter tig welding rod between the installed retaining clip and the axle or cv cup splines to which it is attached. Then while holding pressure on the clip with one pair of pliers, I would use a second pair of pliers to gently squeeze the circlip on the other side of the welding wire, using the wire as a mandrel to put a small kink in the clip, in effect, decreasing the diameter of the circlip to facilitate easier installation and removal of the axle into the transmission. The circlips appear to be made from a low to mediuim carbon steel, and are more malleable than one would think. I think that when "forcing" them into the transmission, there is a risk of the wire compressing, and getting swedged inbetween the axle splines, rather than expanding or relaxing into shape once passing into the retaining groove.

Not trying to hijack your thread or anything. Just thought this was a good opportunity to share a similar experience, and possible solution. I was told that watching 3 grown men trying to remove a cv joint cup from the transmission, looked like a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football. LMFAO!
 
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tatum

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Great job! How do you like the 2 seat chassis compared to the 4 seat?
 

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Nice work Johnny! I had the same thing happen with a 1000 trans 2 years ago. Only time it has ever happened. Stock CV's too..... Don't know of a pattern.
 

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I love the agility of the 2 seater and until the Baja 1000 I had never driven a 4 seater so Im easy either way but it is a little harder to stuff a big fuel tank and a carton of Marlboro Reds in the 2 seater
 
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Johnny

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Incredible build time by your guys! I knew you'd finish it.

Murray Racing and our pit crew were always looking over our shoulders wondering when we might see you and the team being we started 20th and you further back. It was nice to chat at the finish line and receive your congrats on our 2nd place. See you next month at the Imperial Valley 250.

BTW: Where did you get that roof scoop?

We make the scoops for our cars in house ..
 

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